10-Man Melee High Scores and Discussion

[syeb]

Jigglypuff: 10.25

Mr. Game and Watch: 10.25

Marth: 9.30

Total: 4:07.42

[jeffman]

My video setup is awesome because I have my gamecube signal being split so that it goes into my TV Tuner and television set at the same time, and I don't have to stare at a 30fps, 320x240 screen while I do Target Tests.

[Nintendude1189]

linksdarkarrows said:

Nintendude> How much did your equipment cost?

My friend got it for me, so I'm not really sure. All you really need is a VCR and a way to have AV input for your computer though,

[LinksDarkArrows]

Want to ask your friend for me?

I can support both right now.

[蹴飛冥]

Link

[last 3 frames]

(M) top (F) right (F) bottom: 6.92 x3
(F) top (F) right (M) bottom: 6.90
(F) top (M) right (F) bottom: 6.85

How to maximize each potential ending:
Link largely depends on frames 4-5. Namely, you want to kill 4-5 both at exactly the same time in order to make the right platform frame in the ending male. If a frame is male of the final 8, that means it is the 9th frame to emerge. The 10th frame, then, in this scenario, is the top platform frame, which is the last frame to be hit, since Link's upB propels him upward.

If your bomb kills frame 4 noticably before your up smash kills frame 5, you may as well restart, you wont be getting any new records in this case. You will probably get high 6.9x or low 7s.

Ideally, you want your bomb to propel frame 4 straight up, then up smash frame 5 at the same time, resulting in the right frame male. This is the hardest to pull off since frame 4 dies so fast that it is hard to land on the right platform fast enough and up smash 5. If you can pull it off, though, you should be able to manage as low as 6.8x.

What will most likely happen is frame 4 will fly a little to the left from your bomb. You will up smash 5, and the right frame that spawns will be male, but this doesnt mean you did 4-5 as fast as possible. 4 died slower because it went at an angle, which made it easier for you to up+smash 5 at the same time 4 died. You will easily see sub7 this way, but probably not in the 6.8x range.

However, if you have 6.8x speed and your bomb makes 4 fly to the left, you should be able to get to and kill frame 5 BEFORE frame 4 actually dies. In which case, the right frame will be female but the bottom frame will be male. This is relatively rare but it is probably the easiest scenario to complete when it actually happens. Low 6.9x is easily possible this way, and probably even 6.8x although I have yet to do it.

Sometimes, though, the bomb will make frame 4 fly a little to the right, into your up+smash. Most of the time in these cases, the right platform frame will be female, not male, but for some reason, it is easier to get a lower time this way as opposed to other instances in which this frame is female. I've done 6.92 three times this way.


No matter what happens, sub7 is fairly easy. Just keep an eye out and try to watch for optimal kills on 4-5, and then hope the final 5 frames are nice to you.

As far as the ending goes, I like to stay on the right platform until 6-7 (the frames coming from the left) drift towards me and then rejump on top. As soon as they rejump, I dash left, fastfall to the bottom while pulling a bomb, jump as soon as I land, drop the bomb and upB. This makes the timing very easy on you, and puts 6-7 nicely situated on the top platform.

[skatin64]

you can get dazzle for like 50

[nevake]

I think dazzle 80 is 30 dollars <.< and some others are cheaper too.

[sin2324]

Falcon 7.41
Y.Link 6.83
Jiggly 7.41

Total 2:59.57

It's 4:27 A.M. in Japan now =)


ª wrote this in dream. >_>;

[LinksDarkArrows]

I don't think time matters to you, Sin. Robots don't sleep.

[stelzig]

Sin is going to pass me soon

[Rav]

Link - 6.90

Total - 2:57.52

Still going for lower

[蹴飛冥]

Nice work Rav and Sin.

Stelzig: Try out the new Link strat, it is pretty easy. Also work on Luigi and friends. Don't let Sin pass you without putting up a fight.

Sin: Nice ylink, got any advice for me? I am terrible with young link. =/

I have a new Marth and Kirby strat ideas... probably they won't work though, but I think its worth a shot.

[stelzig]

But i was just about to start on BtT and i also still play MKDS....

I will give it a few more tries

Edit: I actually think link is pretty hard. I cannot hit frame 5 fast enough. But you know when the bomb doesn't explode on frame 1? It still gets KO'd as fast and i think it would go faster to jump up and grab it, rejump, drop and then UpA frame 5. That way i can maybe also do it fast enough

[蹴飛冥]

My kirby idea didnt work. Marth I am not sure. So naturally, I decided that I want 7.3x Luigi. Frame 10 can easily die at 7.3x, its just frames 8 and 9 that are the problem.

[sn1989]

DK: 7.52
CF: 7.43
IC: 7.40 (new strat, on vid)
Total: 3:00.50

IC vid
www.4shared.com/account/file.jsp?id=2412260&sId=I3lK3bk8BPENkct8

EDIT:
Alternate link
www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=DF263ABF55D2F731

[stelzig]

Nice times, but our IC's vid link doesn't work

Edit: Got 6.95 with link with the last right frame being female.

[stelzig]

Link: 6.90 - 6.92 with right frame as female

Total: 2:58.80
Calculated: 2:58.76

Edit:

Link: 6.87 with last right frame being female

Total: 2:58.77
Calculated: 2:58.73

I actually think that 6.78 could be possible

[sin2324]

Link 6.92

I made the 10MM page.
you can see some of my vids there.

www.geocities.jp/sin2324fb/10manmelee.html

> r1k
how about my YL begining?
boomerang is much easier than bomb for me. =)

[LinksDarkArrows]

Awesome Donkey Kong video. The strat looks fun.

[stelzig]

Very nice DK

[蹴飛冥]

stelzig: I agree, 6.7x is most likely possible.


SN: Nice IC strat o_0!

stelzig: Nice Link record!

Sin: Nice DK and young link videos!

[Rav]

Good job everyone

I'll have to give this DK strat a try, now that I have seen the video

[stelzig]

DK idea: Roll dodge to the right, jump up on the platform and wavedash to the left edge. DownA smash 1-3.
Jump up on the middle platform, dash to the left to KO 4-5.
KO 6-7 in whatever way you want, i prefer UpB or Tilt UpA.
Dash attack 8-10 (Maybe downB?)

You can also Dash attack the right platform frame and the bottom frame then Tilt UpA frame 3 and downA smash 4-5. Don't know about the rest...

[sin2324]

Fox : 7.25 ...
Link : 6.87
Mewtwo : 7.36

Total : 2:59.41


>Stelzig
I've already tried it but I felt it so hard.

[蹴飛冥]

stelzig: that strat can only get about 7.6 or so at best.

Nice scores Sin. Try for 7.1x Fox, it isnt too difficult.

[蹴飛冥]

7.30 Bowser!

2:58.18 Total

[sin2324]

Dr.M got 7.36 Jigglypuff

great bowser r1k =)


Edit1 :
yay
Jigglypuff : 7.36 on tape
Total : 2:59.36

Edit2 :
Ice Climber : 7.33 on tape
Total : 2:58.97

[蹴飛冥]

Great scores Sin Congrats on sub 2:59!

WR Total is 2:57.05. Almost sub 2:57!

[stelzig]

There goes my IC WR

Did you use the "old" strat or SN's?

[蹴飛冥]

Im pretty sure he used SN's strat