Best of BtT Suicide - Official Topic

[蹴飛冥]

BtT Suicide... how fast you can die in Target Test. It doesn't matter whether your score is off the bottom, the sides, or the top, this topic is for the best overall suicide records. For many of the records, many people have the record... and those who tie that record probably won't be acknowledged on the record list, one of the primary flaws of the system. Thus, BtT Suicide is less about individual scores and more about Total High Score. This is officially the official BtT Suicide topic (for it is too cluttered in the SUS topic... and it doesnt make sense there anyways)



-----------Doc: 0.31 many
---------Mario: 1.13 many
---------Luigi: 0.57 many
-------Bowser: 1.67 LinksDarkArrows, r1k
---------Peach: 1.41 Dr.Mお
---------Yoshi: 1.55 many
------D. Kong: 0.68 many
-----C. Falcon: 0.03 many
---------Ganon: 0.08 Realized
---------Falco: 0.55 TatsuyaNV, Dr.Mお
-----------Fox: 0.21 many
---------Ness: 1.15 many
--------Ice C.: 0.16 many
---------Kirby: 1.95 Dark_BROTOSS
-------Samus: 0.85 ssbm1221, LDA
--------Sheik: 0.33 many
----------Link: 0.58 many
-------Y. Link: 3.13 zampa
---------Pichu: 0.00 many
------Pikachu: 1.23 many
----Jigglypuff: 1.38 ssbm1221, r1k
-----Mewtwo: 0.68 many
----------G&W: N/A
--------Marth: 0.57 many
-----------Roy: 0.46 many


TOTAL HIGH SCORE
20.82 - Dr.Mお (18)
21.01 - ssbm1221 (14)
21.11 - TatsuyaNV (15)
21.15 - r1k (10)
21.23 - Skorpion (13)
21.28 - Ravenyte (12)
21.30 - Fox128 (12)
21.38 - Dark_BROTOSS (11)
21.65 - joppe (8)
21.65 - LDA (9)
21.70 - Cybe (6)
21.76 - Infernum (12)
21.80 - MasterKai (5)
21.87 - FlamingSlayer (6)
21.88 - robroy (10)

22.08 - Phantomganon
22.08 - sw-1988
22.19 - Jeffman (5)
22.41 - Ebucemag
22.41 - gamepro88
22.70 - next
23.11 - Visth
23.63 - Jerry3333

[1221]

IMO, questionable scores: 1.41 peach, 0.55 falco, 1.40 puff

It should also be noted that when adding up scores that you should use a btt calculator not just a spreadsheet.

Edit: Flaming has 1.25 pika. 1.23 is Tatsuya, white rat, and dr m according to the SuS list. Maybe theres more from ssbm rankings, but unless flaming improved, I think he has 1.25.

[蹴飛冥]

i trust 0.55 falco, 1.40 jiggs sounds a little hard to grasp though.

1.67 - Bowser <WR>
21.54 total

Bowser is by far the funnest strat. thanks LDA!

1.73 x9
1.72 x8
1.70 x3
1.68 x3
1.67 x1 =)

I think we can take off another frame from this score, LDA.

[1221]

you were there when LDA was testing with AR. If a strat can't be done with AR DI, how can it possibly be done with human DI. For Jiggs, I've gotten 1.46 x 30+ and 1.45 like x15.

[蹴飛冥]

true... but I just dont think Tatsuya and Dr M would lie. Maybe its possible it has something to do with the JP version, or something we dont know about. As for Jiggly, i dont know Skorpion, so I cant defend his claim. 1.40 jiggly does seem outrageous to me.

[蹴飛冥]

then again, jiggly might be with different DI, a different burner hit, or a PAL difference. cant be sure of it.

[FlamingSlayer]

ssbm1221 said:

IMO, questionable scores: 1.41 peach, 0.55 falco, 1.40 puff

It should also be noted that when adding up scores that you should use a btt calculator not just a spreadsheet.

Edit: Flaming has 1.25 pika. 1.23 is Tatsuya, white rat, and dr m according to the SuS list. Maybe theres more from ssbm rankings, but unless flaming improved, I think he has 1.25.

Yeah, I only have 1.25. I'll try for 1.23 though, but first I have to remember which direction that is >_>

edit: Its LSS. Does anyone know their strat?

[SW]

Those 1.40 Jiggs are true, I`ve a vid of it...

[nintenkai]

Why not belive on the 0.55 Falco?
There's a vid that I've linked before.
www.geocities.jp/tatsuya_hrc/BtTSui.html

To get 0.55 with Falco you should make a smash DI with a half circle and hit by the wall and smash DI again or something like that.

[Phazon]

I have 0.58 with Falco.. That's all I can remember right now.. I will post all my scores though..

I can't get 0.00 with Pichu though ..

EDIT:

Peach - 1.43
CF - 0.06
Fox - 0.23
Roy - 0.48

I want the Peach WR..

[蹴飛冥]

Phazon, thats not your CF score.

1.36 - Pikachu
21.52 Total

what strat is best with pika? dash left, jump, waveland, dash, jump, double upB?
or dash, double upB, slip off, double upB?
or is 1.23 done with something completely different?

[marth1]

yeah i just did 1.40 jiggly...

you just smash DI the burner left, fastfall after you slipoff the 2nd burner, then air dodge left

[Phazon]

Why?

EDIT:

Sorry typo, i'll fix it..

[1221]

r1k: for pika you do dash jump (waveland?) up b down then left. The down one will make you go left then the left will go left again.

Edit: Jiggs 1.38

Thanks for the smash DI idea marth1 <_<

<21.06> 2 frames from dr m =)

[FlamingSlayer]

I got 1.25 three times without a waveland but I dont think it would help me any much.

Jiggly - 1.46

22 seconds

[蹴飛冥]

what is "smash DI"?

[蹴飛冥]

big thanks to 1221 for jiggs and pika help

1.43 - jiggly
1.23 - pikachu <WR>

21.34 Total

[1221]

Pika 1.23

<21.01> WR

[蹴飛冥]

1.38 - jiggs
21.29 Total

1.43 x4
1.41 x6
1.40 x5
1.38 x1

Also, Falcon 0.05 x16... still no sign of 0.03

[FlamingSlayer]

Bowser - 1.75
Sheik - 0.33 <WR>

21.92

[Rav]

Dr. Mario - 0.31
Mario - 1.16
Ness - 1.23
Jigglypuff - 1.41

Total - 21.49

[蹴飛冥]

0.87 - samus (after 8x 0.88)
3.30 - ylink
21.20 Total

[jeffman]

Fox 0.21 [WR]
Sheik 0.33 [WR]
Pichu 0.00 [WR]
Roy 0.46 [WR]
23.94

Edit: 23.27

[蹴飛冥]

quick question: Is Isai-dropping used in Mewtwo suicide? i just thought about that.

[FlamingSlayer]

Fox - 0.23
Ness - 1.25

21.88

[蹴飛冥]

I got Peach 1.46 using air-dodge down into death... maybe someone with AR could test and see if 1.41 is possible like this, or if 1.41 was just a super lucky dash-off fastfall (but if it was, wouldnt more people have it?)

also, someone needs to tell me excactly what you do inside the tube with young link, i dont understand how I am getting times 0.20 slower than WR. where do you jump, walljump, etc, thats what i need to know.

[jeffman]

I just tried Peach's with an AR (normal fastfall strat, no L dodge), started with 10.00 sec and Peach died at 8.63, so that makes 1.37. Got it on my first try too so it might not even be maxed. Vid soon.

[1221]

There's no way every single person is 4 frames off of what is possible (except dr m who is 3).

[jeffman]

Alright, I realized that I did it with a player 2 as well, and the P2 Mario spawned right in front of Peach so it may have pushed her to the left a little bit. I tried it again with only Peach though, and I got 10.00 - 8.58 which equals 1.42...

Edit: Got another 8.58 with L-dodge

Edit 2: Alright, I've tried L-dodging at several different frames and they all result in 8.58. :\

[蹴飛冥]

1.42 rounds up to 1.43, making this 1.41 time very suspicious, unless there is only 1 frame margin of error in which to air-ddoge in order to aheive the score... and even if that is true, it's still very unlikely. Thanks jeffman for testing all of this, by the way.

Anyway:

3.25 - Ylink (WR strat... I must be the slowest walljumper in the world or something)

21.15 calculated total, but I signed up for ssbm-rankings.net today an that calculates my in-game total, which is 21.20, so since everyone goes by that (atleast for the best totals) I will go by that too.

21.20 Total

And Falcon 0.03 still isnt happening.