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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 22, 2007 17:39:29 GMT -5
BtT Suicide... how fast you can die in Target Test. It doesn't matter whether your score is off the bottom, the sides, or the top, this topic is for the best overall suicide records. For many of the records, many people have the record... and those who tie that record probably won't be acknowledged on the record list, one of the primary flaws of the system. Thus, BtT Suicide is less about individual scores and more about Total High Score. This is officially the official BtT Suicide topic (for it is too cluttered in the SUS topic... and it doesnt make sense there anyways)
-----------Doc: 0.31 many ---------Mario: 1.13 many ---------Luigi: 0.57 many -------Bowser: 1.67 LinksDarkArrows, r1k ---------Peach: 1.41 Dr.Mお ---------Yoshi: 1.55 many ------D. Kong: 0.68 many -----C. Falcon: 0.03 many ---------Ganon: 0.08 Realized ---------Falco: 0.55 TatsuyaNV, Dr.Mお -----------Fox: 0.21 many ---------Ness: 1.15 many --------Ice C.: 0.16 many ---------Kirby: 1.95 Dark_BROTOSS -------Samus: 0.85 ssbm1221, LDA --------Sheik: 0.33 many ----------Link: 0.58 many -------Y. Link: 3.13 zampa ---------Pichu: 0.00 many ------Pikachu: 1.23 many ----Jigglypuff: 1.38 ssbm1221, r1k -----Mewtwo: 0.68 many ----------G&W: N/A --------Marth: 0.57 many -----------Roy: 0.46 many
TOTAL HIGH SCORE 20.82 - Dr.Mお (18) 21.01 - ssbm1221 (14) 21.11 - TatsuyaNV (15) 21.15 - r1k (10) 21.23 - Skorpion (13) 21.28 - Ravenyte (12) 21.30 - Fox128 (12) 21.38 - Dark_BROTOSS (11) 21.65 - joppe (8) 21.65 - LDA (9) 21.70 - Cybe (6) 21.76 - Infernum (12) 21.80 - MasterKai (5) 21.87 - FlamingSlayer (6) 21.88 - robroy (10)
22.08 - Phantomganon 22.08 - sw-1988 22.19 - Jeffman (5) 22.41 - Ebucemag 22.41 - gamepro88 22.70 - next 23.11 - Visth 23.63 - Jerry3333
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Post by 1221 on Feb 22, 2007 18:22:45 GMT -5
IMO, questionable scores: 1.41 peach, 0.55 falco, 1.40 puff
It should also be noted that when adding up scores that you should use a btt calculator not just a spreadsheet.
Edit: Flaming has 1.25 pika. 1.23 is Tatsuya, white rat, and dr m according to the SuS list. Maybe theres more from ssbm rankings, but unless flaming improved, I think he has 1.25.
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 22, 2007 19:21:49 GMT -5
i trust 0.55 falco, 1.40 jiggs sounds a little hard to grasp though.
1.67 - Bowser <WR> 21.54 total
Bowser is by far the funnest strat. thanks LDA!
1.73 x9 1.72 x8 1.70 x3 1.68 x3 1.67 x1 =)
I think we can take off another frame from this score, LDA.
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Post by 1221 on Feb 22, 2007 19:31:50 GMT -5
you were there when LDA was testing with AR. If a strat can't be done with AR DI, how can it possibly be done with human DI. For Jiggs, I've gotten 1.46 x 30+ and 1.45 like x15.
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 22, 2007 20:00:20 GMT -5
true... but I just dont think Tatsuya and Dr M would lie. Maybe its possible it has something to do with the JP version, or something we dont know about. As for Jiggly, i dont know Skorpion, so I cant defend his claim. 1.40 jiggly does seem outrageous to me.
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 22, 2007 20:07:00 GMT -5
then again, jiggly might be with different DI, a different burner hit, or a PAL difference. cant be sure of it.
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Post by FlamingSlayer on Feb 22, 2007 20:07:33 GMT -5
IMO, questionable scores: 1.41 peach, 0.55 falco, 1.40 puff It should also be noted that when adding up scores that you should use a btt calculator not just a spreadsheet. Edit: Flaming has 1.25 pika. 1.23 is Tatsuya, white rat, and dr m according to the SuS list. Maybe theres more from ssbm rankings, but unless flaming improved, I think he has 1.25. Yeah, I only have 1.25. I'll try for 1.23 though, but first I have to remember which direction that is >_> edit: Its LSS. Does anyone know their strat?
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Post by SW on Feb 23, 2007 3:28:17 GMT -5
Those 1.40 Jiggs are true, I`ve a vid of it...
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Post by nintenkai on Feb 23, 2007 4:45:24 GMT -5
Why not belive on the 0.55 Falco? There's a vid that I've linked before. www.geocities.jp/tatsuya_hrc/BtTSui.htmlTo get 0.55 with Falco you should make a smash DI with a half circle and hit by the wall and smash DI again or something like that.
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Post by Phazon on Feb 23, 2007 7:53:17 GMT -5
I have 0.58 with Falco.. That's all I can remember right now.. I will post all my scores though.. I can't get 0.00 with Pichu though .. EDIT: Peach - 1.43 CF - 0.06 Fox - 0.23 Roy - 0.48 I want the Peach WR..
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 23, 2007 12:37:13 GMT -5
Phazon, thats not your CF score.
1.36 - Pikachu 21.52 Total
what strat is best with pika? dash left, jump, waveland, dash, jump, double upB? or dash, double upB, slip off, double upB? or is 1.23 done with something completely different?
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Post by marth1 on Feb 23, 2007 13:09:10 GMT -5
yeah i just did 1.40 jiggly...
you just smash DI the burner left, fastfall after you slipoff the 2nd burner, then air dodge left
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Post by Phazon on Feb 23, 2007 13:54:19 GMT -5
Why?
EDIT:
Sorry typo, i'll fix it..
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Post by 1221 on Feb 23, 2007 14:37:31 GMT -5
r1k: for pika you do dash jump (waveland?) up b down then left. The down one will make you go left then the left will go left again.
Edit: Jiggs 1.38
Thanks for the smash DI idea marth1 <_<
<21.06> 2 frames from dr m =)
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Post by FlamingSlayer on Feb 23, 2007 17:40:33 GMT -5
I got 1.25 three times without a waveland but I dont think it would help me any much.
Jiggly - 1.46
22 seconds
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 23, 2007 20:17:41 GMT -5
what is "smash DI"?
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 23, 2007 23:54:55 GMT -5
big thanks to 1221 for jiggs and pika help
1.43 - jiggly 1.23 - pikachu <WR>
21.34 Total
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Post by 1221 on Feb 24, 2007 1:22:56 GMT -5
Pika 1.23
<21.01> WR
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 24, 2007 17:31:01 GMT -5
1.38 - jiggs 21.29 Total 1.43 x4 1.41 x6 1.40 x5 1.38 x1 Also, Falcon 0.05 x16... still no sign of 0.03
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Post by FlamingSlayer on Feb 24, 2007 17:40:02 GMT -5
Bowser - 1.75 Sheik - 0.33 <WR>
21.92
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Post by Rav on Feb 24, 2007 22:17:36 GMT -5
Dr. Mario - 0.31 Mario - 1.16 Ness - 1.23 Jigglypuff - 1.41
Total - 21.49
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 25, 2007 0:26:37 GMT -5
0.87 - samus (after 8x 0.88) 3.30 - ylink 21.20 Total
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Post by jeffman on Feb 25, 2007 0:34:31 GMT -5
Fox 0.21 [WR] Sheik 0.33 [WR] Pichu 0.00 [WR] Roy 0.46 [WR] 23.94
Edit: 23.27
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 25, 2007 1:59:30 GMT -5
quick question: Is Isai-dropping used in Mewtwo suicide? i just thought about that.
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Post by FlamingSlayer on Feb 25, 2007 10:34:39 GMT -5
Fox - 0.23 Ness - 1.25
21.88
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 25, 2007 16:43:56 GMT -5
I got Peach 1.46 using air-dodge down into death... maybe someone with AR could test and see if 1.41 is possible like this, or if 1.41 was just a super lucky dash-off fastfall (but if it was, wouldnt more people have it?)
also, someone needs to tell me excactly what you do inside the tube with young link, i dont understand how I am getting times 0.20 slower than WR. where do you jump, walljump, etc, thats what i need to know.
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Post by jeffman on Feb 25, 2007 18:11:29 GMT -5
I just tried Peach's with an AR (normal fastfall strat, no L dodge), started with 10.00 sec and Peach died at 8.63, so that makes 1.37. Got it on my first try too so it might not even be maxed. Vid soon.
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Post by 1221 on Feb 25, 2007 18:20:34 GMT -5
There's no way every single person is 4 frames off of what is possible (except dr m who is 3).
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Post by jeffman on Feb 25, 2007 18:33:46 GMT -5
Alright, I realized that I did it with a player 2 as well, and the P2 Mario spawned right in front of Peach so it may have pushed her to the left a little bit. I tried it again with only Peach though, and I got 10.00 - 8.58 which equals 1.42...
Edit: Got another 8.58 with L-dodge
Edit 2: Alright, I've tried L-dodging at several different frames and they all result in 8.58. :\
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Feb 26, 2007 1:38:01 GMT -5
1.42 rounds up to 1.43, making this 1.41 time very suspicious, unless there is only 1 frame margin of error in which to air-ddoge in order to aheive the score... and even if that is true, it's still very unlikely. Thanks jeffman for testing all of this, by the way.
Anyway:
3.25 - Ylink (WR strat... I must be the slowest walljumper in the world or something)
21.15 calculated total, but I signed up for ssbm-rankings.net today an that calculates my in-game total, which is 21.20, so since everyone goes by that (atleast for the best totals) I will go by that too.
21.20 Total
And Falcon 0.03 still isnt happening.
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