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Post by Phazon on May 4, 2007 20:14:09 GMT -5
I finally got some time to play ssbm today ^^. >_> I was very annoyed to discover that I couldn't beat my sister. She was Peach and I was Marth and I used pretty much all the advanced techniques in the game. My sister can't even WD or SHFFL. (with anyone). How does she beat me ;__; She hit 80% d-smash on me on every stock in one match. She stands there doing an attack and I DD and try to grab, but she just hits me somehow with that d**n d-smash. She's not very good with vegetables, she nearly always misses and if she doesn't I shield them or grab them. She spams fair with instant floating thingy, even though she doesn't float cancel with it and I always fall for it. It's almost like no mindgames are the perfect mindgames. I don't know why but my best combos were like 3 attacks, which for me and everyone else, sucks. When she's Sheik, I own her, but that d**n Peach. Please tell me Peach owns Marth always. Most of the time it seems like she doesn't know what she's doing, but she just gets lucky and I can't predict or understand her gameplay and I fall into stupid things. Why do I CC a d-smash always?! I should never have quit Falco for Marth, but now i suck real bad with Falco and I don't wanna switch back. I think this is my longest post ever. I doubt anyone will read it Does this ever happen to anyone else? Stupid, no-mindgames, repeating same attacks over and over, but you fall for it every time? Does Peach have an advantage over Marth? Am I the only one who can't pull of a Ken combo and leaves myself open after every attepmt? Does anyone else even main Marth? Should I switch characters when playing against Peach? If so who should I switch to? Thank you in advance to anyone who dares help me ^^'
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Post by eat moar asparagus on May 4, 2007 22:23:35 GMT -5
*has read the whole thing*
Well, phazon...
<_<
>_>
I have no idea because I don't play vs. mode. However, I suggest that when you play against Peach, use someone who has projectiles such as the Links (spam the bomb and boomerang) or Samus (spam teh missiles). ;D ;D ;D Um, I hope this helps, though it probably doesn't.
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Post by Phazon on May 5, 2007 3:27:55 GMT -5
I suck with Samus and even worse with Link If I need good projectiles then maybe I should be Falco again. I don't wanna stop maining Marth cuz of one character though >_>.
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Post by LinksDarkArrows on May 5, 2007 5:39:35 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Does this ever happen to anyone else? Stupid, no-mindgames, repeating same attacks over and over, but you fall for it every time?[/glow]
No, it's just you.
[glow=red,2,300]Does Peach have an advantage over Marth?[/glow]
Well. Isn't Peach the superior gender? I would imagine that peach uses what she has to her advantage to blind Marth's puny stereotypical brain. <_<
[glow=red,2,300]Am I the only one who can't pull of a Ken combo and leaves myself open after every attepmt?[/glow]
No way. Go to a place called Nsider. That place is a haven where noobs congregate and discuss Melee topics they know nothing about. For instance, the tier list.
[glow=red,2,300]Does anyone else even main Marth?[/glow]
Sorry. But you're the only person on Earth who mains Marth. So no one can really help you. =(
[glow=red,2,300]Should I switch characters when playing against Peach?[/glow]
We cannot answer this question. When character switches come, only you can find who you're comfortable with. =p
[glow=red,2,300]If so who should I switch to?[/glow]
N/A
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Post by Sword of Seals on May 5, 2007 15:51:49 GMT -5
Phazon : I could be of some help, I play Vs all the time.
Firstly, the main advantage peach has over marth is her recovering ability. She can recover from much greater distances.
Secondly, as stated on one of marths trophies, marth has a low endurance factor. So because your sister continually used the d-smash, you kept flying great distances, and not having the smallest chance of recovering. Is this true?
Also, you asked if anyone else mains marth, and i know that clearblu mains marth.
I think that the solution is that you need to sheild more. The greatest offence is a good defence.
I hope this has helped. And im sorry that i stretched the page a little.
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Post by eat moar asparagus on May 5, 2007 19:29:51 GMT -5
Ken mains marth, right?
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Post by stelzig on May 7, 2007 12:14:37 GMT -5
Don't ever "over-main" characters and keep trying out different characters. Eventually you might get a feel for which to use against which, but until then i would always leave all characters open. Just start out by finding some don't's. Marth against peach would seemingly be your first one.
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Post by Echo on May 8, 2007 4:55:55 GMT -5
Stelzig, are you coming to Ros4? Edit: Phazon, try using Ganon.
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Post by supersmashbrosss on May 8, 2007 7:50:10 GMT -5
Peach is a great character to use if you don't like advanced techniques. But Marth is her main weakness. Keep your range from her use lots of grabs, forward smashes and forward aerial.
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Post by Phazon on May 8, 2007 9:37:31 GMT -5
SOS, Marth actually has a very under-rated recovery. I can use it very well =D. I used to shield grab a lot, but then I started being more offensive. I think I need to shield grab more often, Marth has good grabs because they lead to combos. Echoist, I know Ganon is good against Peach, but he's just too slow for me. Stelzig, I started playing Falco again and Mario as a new character. I quite like Mario, he's fast, strong, his range isn't bad. Well, he's not "great" in any of them, but he's atleast average. His recovery sucks and that's what makes me hate him . Lalala, yeah . LDA, superior gender? o.o supersmashbrosss do you mean Marth is better than Peach or Peach is better than Marth?
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Post by stelzig on May 8, 2007 10:12:32 GMT -5
^He means that marth is technically good against peach. Stelzig, are you coming to Ros4? Possibly. I can sail there from a city very close to me. I don't what i should be doing there though. I'll just get owned. I will probably just sit down in a little corner and play single player xD
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Post by LinksDarkArrows on May 8, 2007 10:26:06 GMT -5
^He means that marth is technically good against peach. Stelzig, are you coming to Ros4? Possibly. I can sail there from a city very close to me. I don't what i should be doing there though. I'll just get owned. I will probably just sit down in a little corner and play single player xD I was going to play Single player at SMYM 6, but they didn't have enough televisions for people to **** off like that. I was REALLY close one time, then Quazy came up to me. If I can make it to FC 2007 I'm going to try single player there. I mean, with an admission fee of over 50$ (from what I hear) I better be able to play stadium. xp
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Post by stelzig on May 8, 2007 10:58:59 GMT -5
Well if i can't get to play stadium then i will just bring my DS and own, some of the people who owned me in smash, in MKDS
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Post by Astr0 on May 8, 2007 11:37:20 GMT -5
Phazon : I could be of some help, I play Vs all the time.
Firstly, the main advantage peach has over marth is her recovering ability. She can recover from much greater distances.
Secondly, as stated on one of marths trophies, marth has a low endurance factor. So because your sister continually used the d-smash, you kept flying great distances, and not having the smallest chance of recovering. Is this true?
I think that the solution is that you need to sheild more. The greatest offence is a good defence.
I hope this has helped. And im sorry that i stretched the page a little.
Firstly: You are getting very good at this game.
Secondly: Also, you asked if anyone else mains marth, and i know that clearblu mains marth.
Not so much anymore, I play as Doc alot, but Marth still is my character.
Thirdly: This topic explains this whole thing to me...
Whenver me and SoS play and I use Marth and he uses Peach, he owns me so badly. He usually pwns I disagree anyway, but Peach seemed to ahve extra pwnage.
Now I know thats he has an advantage over him... NEVER AGAIN WILL HE OWN ME!!(when he uses peach and i use marth(he will just own me a little bit(stop reading this)))
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Post by Echo on May 8, 2007 15:35:32 GMT -5
Echoist, I know Ganon is good against Peach, but he's just too slow for me. Well to beat noobs you must play like a noob. XD Anyway, Mario is a good character, but it's hard to KO ppl with him. Imo, you should go for Doc. Easier to get KOs, pills > fireballs, worse recovery, but who cares.
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Post by Phazon on May 9, 2007 8:35:52 GMT -5
Fe fi fo fum. I don't like Mario anymore. Marth is the ONLY character I can play.
I will have a little walk round to your house Clearblu XD I WOULD PWN YOU! >_<!
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Post by Sword of Seals on May 10, 2007 10:36:03 GMT -5
Fe fi fo fum. I don't like Mario anymore. Marth is the ONLY character I can play. I will have a little walk round to your house Clearblu XD I WOULD PWN YOU! >_<! Sword of Seals Vs Clear blu Vs Phazon 1 Vs 1 Vs 1 One match i would want to play.
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Post by Phazon on May 10, 2007 11:58:10 GMT -5
And one match you would regret playing =D
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Post by Astr0 on May 10, 2007 15:02:35 GMT -5
I will have a little walk round to your house Clearblu XD I WOULD PWN YOU!Quit bragging. It hurts my feelings. Sword of Seals Vs Clear blu Vs Phazon SoS and Phazon > ClearBlu One match i would want to play. And one match I would regret playing. =D Sos, you know that you and Phazonh would own me, play someone else up to your level of skill.( someone like Nintendude, so i can watch you suffer and die like i always do when facing you)
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Post by Phazon on May 11, 2007 3:17:42 GMT -5
How about Phazon + Clearblu vs SoS + level 1 Link!
=D
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Post by Astr0 on May 11, 2007 11:26:04 GMT -5
How about Phazon + Clearblu vs SoS + level 1 Link! =D I repeat, one match I would regret playing. I suck at vs. mode, SoS is just trying to embarass me. >_>
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Post by Sword of Seals on May 11, 2007 12:26:02 GMT -5
How about Phazon + Clearblu vs SoS + level 1 Link! =D I repeat, one match I would regret playing. I suck at vs. mode, SoS is just trying to embarass me. >_> Lol. I cry with laughter. You don't suck. You just need some training.
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Post by Phazon on May 11, 2007 12:49:25 GMT -5
I don't suck! =D! We would win. Unless you're saying that a level 1 Link is better than you? =) I could train you better than SoS, cuz I am just better ;D! Umm, actually I could only train a Marth player. YOU ARE A MARTH PLAYER! Unless you're better than me and SoS is like Isai 2 >_> If there was a tourney in England it would be interesting. =) MAKE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Astr0 on May 11, 2007 13:24:08 GMT -5
Unless you're saying that a level 1 Link is better than you?
Um, no comment.
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Post by Phazon on May 11, 2007 14:45:28 GMT -5
BTW shouldn't your sig say copyright not right
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Post by Sword of Seals on May 11, 2007 16:54:45 GMT -5
I don't suck! =D! We would win. Unless you're saying that a level 1 Link is better than you? =) I could train you better than SoS, cuz I am just better ;D! Umm, actually I could only train a Marth player. YOU ARE A MARTH PLAYER! Unless you're better than me and SoS is like Isai 2 >_> If there was a tourney in England it would be interesting. =) MAKE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When i was saying you dont suck, i was talking to clear blu Obiously you would win. Think the logic : Expert (phazon) and brilliant (clear blu) Vs average (Me) and a complete thick ass (lvl 1 link). And yes, phazon would be a good coach. He knows all the advanced tactics How can i make a tourney here in england? You, i and clearblu all know that foolish n00bies will join. Phazon says he is better,(which he is) but i am slowly creeping up behind him in btt.
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Post by Astr0 on May 11, 2007 19:10:54 GMT -5
BTW shouldn't your sig say copyright not right No, It says... "whoever reads this will be sued for reading right infringment" I didn't say nothing about copyright. Expert (phazon) and brilliant (clear blu) Vs average (Me) and a complete thick ass (lvl 1 link).Dis-agree with the part in bold. And yes, phazon would be a good coach. He knows all the advanced tactics Agreed! How can i make a tourney here in england? You, i and clearblu all know that foolish n00bies will join. Agreed! Phazon says he is better,(which he is) but i am slowly creeping up behind him in btt. Agreed!
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Post by Phazon on May 12, 2007 2:29:47 GMT -5
So you did the typo on purpose? So people would read it and you would know >_<. I'm no expert at any part of the game Far from it. Why would I ask for help if I was an expert? You will beat me in BtT. I'm kinda bored with it now GoGo sub 3.49.16 (I think) I don't wanna make any assumptions if i've never played you. For all I know you could both be 100 times better than me!
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Post by Sword of Seals on May 12, 2007 5:01:36 GMT -5
You will beat me in BtT. I'm kinda bored with it now GoGo sub 3.49.16 (I think) I don't wanna make any assumptions if i've never played you. For all I know you could both be 100 times better than me! It will take a while, but i am slowly approching you. And I feel the same way. Im not going to say that i am better than you, when i have never played you
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Post by Phazon on May 12, 2007 9:58:28 GMT -5
SoS and Clearblu check your PMs!!!!
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