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Post by Nintendude1189 on Jul 20, 2007 23:34:04 GMT -5
I didn't see a thread for it so I figured I'd make one. This is for Classic, Adventure, and All-Star.
If there already is one and I just couldn't find it then let me know and I'll delete this.
So, on topic, I think I may know BCL's 2.5 mil trick: Dead-Weight KO.
One of the tricks that Thieum used in his old runs was grab a Koopa Shell and use it to kill all the Yoshi's, as they all get you a Dead-Weight KO which is a very good bonus. Since these Koopas count as regular enemies apparently (the bonus is KO'ing an opponent with a thrown enemy), perhaps you can also get Dead-Weight KO by throwing them at other Goombas / Koopas. I haven't tested it but it's worth a try.
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Post by 蹴飛冥 on Jul 20, 2007 23:42:21 GMT -5
Thanks for making this topic NA, many times I have considered making it but for some reason did not.
As for the dead-weight KO theory, that is very smart o_0. According to my sources, dead weight KO is 4000 points per KO... BCL somehow manages to get an extra 200k on 1-1 (normal score is about 1.05 mil, he is getting about 1.25 mil I theorize, in order to get 2.5mil after 5-6 plays) so considering the number of goombas and koopas in the stage, this idea is not at all unlikely. I might try this out and see if it works.
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Post by Nintendude1189 on Jul 20, 2007 23:56:34 GMT -5
Another idea I just had is to pick up the Goombas and throw them at each other. Try that too.
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Post by SW on Jul 21, 2007 2:21:08 GMT -5
Interesting idea, but doesn`t work Nice to have a thread for regular mode now Edit: So, Thieum got all his scores with only 2.1 mio on 1-1 as well ?
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Post by eat moar asparagus on Jul 21, 2007 17:57:32 GMT -5
I dont know if this is on topic or not, but can somebody give me some tips on getting the crazy hand trophy? (beat hard/very hard adventure without continues) I'm using Roy and spamming f-smash and B, but I keep on dying on the last stage (Bowser).
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Post by Astr0 on Jul 21, 2007 18:47:34 GMT -5
To get the Crazy Hand Trophy wouldn't you have to play on Classic Mode instead of Adventure Mode, otherwise wouldn't you get Giga Bowser?
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Post by Treklink256 on Jul 21, 2007 20:33:34 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I've tried that before ND, and I'm pretty sure it didn't work... Anyways, I recently passed Thieum in Classic mode.
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Post by Phazon on Jul 24, 2007 5:09:43 GMT -5
No, you play adventure.
Lalala - Play as Falco and shl to smash attacks.
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Post by Sword of Seals on Jul 24, 2007 7:52:04 GMT -5
Got some new records : Mario Classic : 1,150,700 Zelda Classic : 1,182,280 G&W Classic : 1,184,950 These are all ENRs. What would you say are the must achieved bonuses to get a decent high score?
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Post by Thieum McCloud on Jul 24, 2007 7:58:31 GMT -5
Yeah all my run were done with 2.1M after the first run using the Dead-Weight KO thing (btw it doesn't work on Goombas and such)... Except with Luigi with who I taunt (~2.35M instead). Never tried to get more than that by doing the strat again and again, I already tried to get as much bonus as possible, I have no clue about the strat BCL could be using =/
Then on the 2nd stage (Mario/Peach), if you have an attack than sends your opponent straight down, you can use it on Mario, since he likes to jump with you, I don't know if anyone use this already >.>
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Post by Sword of Seals on Jul 24, 2007 8:50:24 GMT -5
Peach Classic : 1171950 Another ENR.
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Post by SW on Jul 24, 2007 9:11:05 GMT -5
G&W Classic: 1327550 (2 stages with only 60k >_>) Adventure 4024102 (no giant kirby cause I screwed team kirby badly + several other bad runs) I`m pretty sure that its not possible to get sup 4.3 mio with only 2.1 mio on 1-1. BCL has many 4.4 and even a 4.5 mio score (Peach) so I wonder ... HOW ?!^^ Those 2.5 mio on 1-1 might be possible with the "climatistic KO" bonus on a Yoshi or something I guess, but for other chars I have still no clue oh and .... what are ENR`s ?
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Post by Astr0 on Jul 24, 2007 9:11:24 GMT -5
Nice SoS, I'll add it for you.
I'm such a n00b. no matter how hard I try I just cannot get of 1mil with any character.
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Post by Sword of Seals on Jul 24, 2007 10:46:15 GMT -5
G&W Classic: 1327550 (2 stages with only 60k >_>) Adventure 4024102 (no giant kirby cause I screwed team kirby badly + several other bad runs) I`m pretty sure that its not possible to get sup 4.3 mio with only 2.1 mio on 1-1. BCL has many 4.4 and even a 4.5 mio score (Peach) so I wonder ... HOW ?!^^ Those 2.5 mio on 1-1 might be possible with the "climatistic KO" bonus on a Yoshi or something I guess, but for other chars I have still no clue oh and .... what are ENR`s ? Enrs are England Records. And nice Game & watch. It thrashes mine. Climatistic KO? Never heard of it. Do you mean Climatic clash? Or am i missing the award?
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Post by SW on Jul 24, 2007 11:02:12 GMT -5
*goes to check* oh yea, I meant "climactic clash", sorry^^ But that bonus is very weird. I tried it with DK on allstar. I thought you get 1200 for every "neutral a, tilt a, smash a" you do, but you only get it once no matter how often you do >_> Or am I doing something wrong ?!
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Post by FlamingSlayer on Jul 24, 2007 11:23:46 GMT -5
Adventure Mode Ness - 3,773,452 2.18million after 1-1 Total - 91,066,825
Worst run I ever had with him-__- I missed the giant kirby battle and had like 70k for the wire frame battle.
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Post by Sword of Seals on Jul 24, 2007 11:33:53 GMT -5
*goes to check* oh yea, I meant "climactic clash", sorry^^ But that bonus is very weird. I tried it with DK on allstar. I thought you get 1200 for every "neutral a, tilt a, smash a" you do, but you only get it once no matter how often you do >_> Or am I doing something wrong ?! It is that then. Ok. You have got some idea of how to achieve it. Its progeesing stronger blows. But i dont think your doing enough attacks. Try Neutral a, Forward tilt, Neutral b (Uncharged), Another neutral b (A little charge, not too much), Charged Forward smash. Basically, theres a certain amount of attacks you must go to achieve the award (Like to get perfect aim you must do 8 or more attacks that hit the enemy) Let me know if this helps.
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Post by SW on Jul 24, 2007 11:47:04 GMT -5
Just tried some different combos and got 3600 from that bonus in the end. Now I still dunno which combo was the right one^^ well I guess I just have to keep trying >_> Edit: no matter what I try, its always 2400 or 3600. Weird... Maybe someone else can figure out how that bonus works
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Post by Sword of Seals on Jul 24, 2007 13:07:07 GMT -5
I dont understand the bonus either. I get it all the time in Vs mode. And very rarely in 1p mode. If i actually find out how this bonus works, i'll post it here.
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Post by Crono on Jul 24, 2007 15:03:29 GMT -5
What about all variations + perfect aim + precise aim + all aerials + ( The bonus you get when you carry a box for more than 30 seconds or someting like that ) + Mr saturns bonuses <_< + 10x dead weight KO + Lucky number seven ? I know it's almost impossible, i never get perfect aim nor precise aim in 1-1, because i start doing some shffl while i'm waiting for the koopas shells to bounce enough. But i'm not sure if you get all variations with a non yoshi on that stage >_>
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Post by Thieum McCloud on Jul 24, 2007 15:11:39 GMT -5
Most of the time I get All Variations because I use all the hits from my char while the shell trick is going on. Lucky number seven sux, Last second ftw. I always get Mr. Saturn bonuses, among dozens of item bonuses... So the answer is elsewhere
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Post by eat moar asparagus on Jul 24, 2007 16:25:42 GMT -5
No, you play adventure. Lalala - Play as Falco and shl to smash attacks. thanks ^^ i'll try that then
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Post by Phazon on Jul 24, 2007 17:03:30 GMT -5
Maybe BCL, can get more shells. Therefore he get's the 1mil from shells faster and can get a bigger time bonus.
Just an idea..
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Post by Treklink256 on Jul 24, 2007 22:00:42 GMT -5
Maybe BCL, can get more shells. Therefore he get's the 1mil from shells faster and can get a bigger time bonus. Just an idea.. I sometimes do the Shell Trick with four or even five shells at a time. The time it takes me to collect the extra shells negates the benefit of getting damage faster in my experience.
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Post by Thieum McCloud on Jul 25, 2007 2:16:03 GMT -5
Items bonus >>> time bonus
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Post by SW on Jul 25, 2007 2:42:57 GMT -5
I do always do the shell trick with 4 shells, so I can stop it @ 4:35. Then I have enough time to kill the goombas/koopas and yoshis to finish up @ 3:33.xx But the best I ever got was still only 1.15 mio (I mean without Luigi).
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Post by Phazon on Jul 25, 2007 3:38:04 GMT -5
Get infinate super scope and start shooting none stop. That's what I do do keep the shells moving but maybe you could use it for extra damage.
EDIT:
Never mind. I just realised that wouldn't help.
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Post by SW on Jul 25, 2007 13:53:39 GMT -5
Pika Adventure 3.994.979 >___________>'
I hate those scores ^^
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Post by Sword of Seals on Jul 25, 2007 14:13:30 GMT -5
Pika Adventure 3.994.979 >___________>' I hate those scores ^^ Wow, that is unlucky =/ I cant even get close to scores like this. Id be annoyed with that.
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Post by SW on Jul 26, 2007 7:17:08 GMT -5
Mew2 Adventure 4.477.534 =)
I`ll go for 4.6 mio...
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